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**Ironlung** · November 26th, 2007, 10:12 PM

You also picked PV to beat them 34-6 and then said after Clintwood won "neither team impressed me". How can a team be picked to lose by 4 tds win and completely shut down the other teams offense and not in some form or fashion be somewhat impressive. I don't know about you chubby. You're from a different planet I think. You have many years of valuable knowledge to learn my padawan. [img]/LDPforum/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/wink.gif[/img] I don't know about them wininng, because I'll say it, I HAVE NO CLUE WHAT THEY'RE PLAYING. I'm just glad you weren't wagering money on Appy or Jonesville.

**SWVA-Football** · November 26th, 2007, 10:19 PM

Oh, you're talking about Clintwood/Powell Valley now?

That was just Clintwood playing against another horrible spell of Powell Valley's "throw, throw, throw, throw, throw, run" offense in which they (PV) showed great promise in the running game but were close to scoring numerous times only to end up throwing interceptions almost every time and screwing up important drives. Horrible play-calling just like in the most recent PV/GC game.

Let's also not forget that up to that point, Powell Valley was actually playing fairly well and this was before they were beaten by Clintwood and played a surprisingly bad game versus Kelly.

I wasn't impressed by Clintwood because the entire night they were sucking it up on offense. I wasn't impressed by Powell Valley because their offense was also miserable and their defense didn't have a whole lot to worry about with Clintwood's mediocre Offense.

I picked Powell Valley 34-6 because of the way Clintwood was demolished by Volunteer and then beaten pretty badly (28-3) by Lebanon who Powell Valley completely shut down [the running game I'm referring to] just a week or so before.

I was definitely shocked that Clintwood came out winners because I would have never expected it before the game, but afterwards I wasn't so much impressed as I was disappointed that I didn't see a better Powell Valley team with better play-calling. And let's not forget that almost every time Myron P. touched the ball that game (when he DID get to do so), he ran all over Clintwood.

**Ironlung** · November 26th, 2007, 10:26 PM

I'm talking about PV because it's showing that your picking prowess rivals that of a trained monkey. It's hard to count the number of times that you're either been "amazed", "shocked", or "in disbelief" because of someone's performance or a game didn't go like you thought.

As for Pinkston, uh... no he didn't. He was getting good yardage, most of that was because they were in a three man front. It's easy to get yardage off that, but more than likely you're not going to break anything big. They're playing a 3-4 to limit the pass. I think he had 70-90 yards on about 15 carries. You'll enjoy the game much more when you quit watching the ball, and start seeing the whole field. There is more to football than trying to chunk a ball around the field. There's nothing wrong with defensive football. Clintwood won 3 state titles playing it and had what most folks consider the best teams to ever play in this state.

**SWVA-Football** · November 26th, 2007, 10:29 PM

Exactly, they were playing a defense focused on stopping the pass so every time Powell Valley ran the ball they got good yardage. Every time Pinkston touched the ball, he did well.. Again, why the heck didn't they run more often if it was working well for them?

And why did they insist on throwing the ball when they were in/close to the redzone instead of being able to run easily against a defense focused on stopping the pass and which INTERCEPTED the passes?

This is what I'm trying to say. Powell Valley's offense/play-calling was just miserable that night.

**Ironlung** · November 26th, 2007, 10:33 PM

Because if they went to an I and started running more they go to a 4 or 5 man front or even if they stay in the spread and keep giving him the draw, you quit dropping or sending your outside lb'ers off the edge and have them focus on the run. It was working well for them, because Clintwood was giving it to them. If a team is in 3rd and 25 and they run the draw and pick up 20, they're not doing good. It's what they're given. Simple.

**SWVA-Football** · November 26th, 2007, 10:38 PM

But then if you mix it up better with the running/passing and start confusing those linebackers and the defense itself, isn't that a better way to call plays when working with the spread? I know that with the spread they're obviously wanting to focus on throwing the ball, but even some of the plays I saw them choose were just way out there.. like I said, it reminded me a lot of the PV/GC game this Saturday in which they continuously tried to go for long passes and ended up getting screwed over with several int's as a result.

It's just sad to see some of that talent in the backfield go to waste. [img]/LDPforum/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/frown.gif[/img]

**R0cketer** · November 26th, 2007, 10:41 PM

I've figured the Chubz system.

Team he thinks is better throws picks=they are stupid and make mistakes

Team he thinks is worse throws picks=the other team was just so much better that they caused the picks

Team he thinks is better throws picks=its their fault, no credit to the team that makes the pick or puts pressure on the QB making him make the throw

Team he thinks is worse throws picks=The superior nature of the other team finally showed

**Ironlung** · November 26th, 2007, 10:42 PM

If they're playing a 3-4 (Which is what PVFan even said earlier in the year was a sure fired way to beat them) it limits what they can do. It takes away the midrange throws and makes the deep ball even more important to be accurate. Cedric is a great athlete, but he's an average qb. He throws a good looking ball, but he's not accurate. If they get out of the spread and go to an I or split back they're playing right into Clintwood's hands. They played the best way they could to beat Clintwood, Clintwood'd db's made a couple great plays on some balls (the one by Robinson was the best defensive play I've see all year) and Cedric made a couple of ill advised throws. There are two teams playing and just because the flashy team that you think is going to win doesn't win, doesn't mean you have to denigrate the other team for making the plays to win. There are two teams on the field. Sometimes one team helps the other win, other times a team wins theirselves. Clintwood won that game, PV didn't lose it.

**R0cketer** · November 26th, 2007, 10:35 PM

Syntax, there is an element to defense you play when you're playing a team with some gamebreakers. It's basically a bend, don't break defense. If you would think of the first Clintwood, Norton game this year, Clintwood was inside that what, 10 yard line twice early and came away with 3 points. That's why it was a big thing for Clintwood to punch the first drive in Saturday. Clintwood was content to give up 3-4 yards on plays, but not 30-40 yard plays. Same thing when it was PV. You bend, you don't break. 30-40 yard plays tend to lead to scores. You can give up 2 3 yard plays, make one stop and its a 3rd down and 4, or 5.